My personal opinion is that to succeed in science one (even a gifted one) should have a MENTOR. Unfortunately, most of us are given a supervisor. These are not the same things. A mentor cares about you and looks at you as if you were his seed in a field of science. A mentor somewhat creates you, helps you to grow such that you could give juicy fruits. A supervisor only cares about himself and treats you as a resource. A supervisor gets as much as he/she can out of you and then he/she wastes you. Very few PIs out there are mentors nowadays. Overwhelming majority are just supervisors.
If success is partly dependent on the quality of your advisor, then that undercuts the concept that they can evaluate you against your peers because you have the same resources. So, you lose the law of large numbers and can only evaluate you against your lab-mates (or equivalent) assuming your advisor doesn't pick winners (e.g. providing differential resources). We all know advisors don't pick winners, right?
In reality, the purpose of the graduate student is to be sacrificed in the process of determining if a new advisor is or can become a good supervisor/mentor but only to the extent that that supports the overall goals of the department and obtaining grants.
While absolutely true that mentoring would be fantastic, I also wonder if it is mythological to have a good mentor for the typical grad student. If I had to guess in my department I think there are about 10% of the advisors do a good job of advising (let alone mentoring). More likely, the way it would work is you go to grad school and after a couple years you decide if your advisor is good or not and if you not you leave and try to get a Master's out of the deal.
I've been a student of science for over 10 years. Most of that time I worked in academic research labs. The last and the longest time – in the laboratory of Dr. M. Reza Ghadiri at The Scripps Research Institute (TSRI, California, United States). In April 2009, over 5 years into my thesis work in bioorganic chemistry, I quit the PhD and departed from Scienceland. "Reza Ghadiri Project" is here because I wanted to raise a little hell some issues about PhD in Science and Academic Science in general. It was my little social experiment, and now...
My personal opinion is that to succeed in science one (even a gifted one) should have a MENTOR. Unfortunately, most of us are given a supervisor. These are not the same things. A mentor cares about you and looks at you as if you were his seed in a field of science. A mentor somewhat creates you, helps you to grow such that you could give juicy fruits. A supervisor only cares about himself and treats you as a resource. A supervisor gets as much as he/she can out of you and then he/she wastes you. Very few PIs out there are mentors nowadays. Overwhelming majority are just supervisors.
This is an interesting comment. I wonder if there is a mentor out there in total synthesis! Any suggestions?
If success is partly dependent on the quality of your advisor, then that undercuts the concept that they can evaluate you against your peers because you have the same resources. So, you lose the law of large numbers and can only evaluate you against your lab-mates (or equivalent) assuming your advisor doesn't pick winners (e.g. providing differential resources). We all know advisors don't pick winners, right?
In reality, the purpose of the graduate student is to be sacrificed in the process of determining if a new advisor is or can become a good supervisor/mentor but only to the extent that that supports the overall goals of the department and obtaining grants.
While absolutely true that mentoring would be fantastic, I also wonder if it is mythological to have a good mentor for the typical grad student. If I had to guess in my department I think there are about 10% of the advisors do a good job of advising (let alone mentoring). More likely, the way it would work is you go to grad school and after a couple years you decide if your advisor is good or not and if you not you leave and try to get a Master's out of the deal.
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