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	<title>Comments on - Career advice for young scientists and engineers, Part I</title>
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		<title>By: diordmehc</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7430</link>
		<dc:creator>diordmehc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two reasons
1) if you&#039;ve become a prof, probably everything went pretty well for you in grad school, you were a golden child, the prof groomed you for advancement, got papers in high-profile journals.
Alternatively,
2) you got your PhD during the era when it wasn&#039;t shitty.

&quot;you think that it is more likely people are irrational.&quot;
What are you, some kind of objectivist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two reasons<br />
1) if you've become a prof, probably everything went pretty well for you in grad school, you were a golden child, the prof groomed you for advancement, got papers in high-profile journals.<br />
Alternatively,<br />
2) you got your PhD during the era when it wasn't shitty.</p>
<p>"you think that it is more likely people are irrational."<br />
What are you, some kind of objectivist?</p>
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		<title>By: Cato's Letters</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7429</link>
		<dc:creator>Cato's Letters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay.  

Would you say that advisors do not warn students about the &#039;awfulness of grad school&#039;?  If so, why do they not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay.  </p>
<p>Would you say that advisors do not warn students about the 'awfulness of grad school'?  If so, why do they not?</p>
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		<title>By: Cato's Letters</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7427</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, so your 1-4 in no way contradict my &quot;dumb&quot; explanation.  I provided a rational explanation and you think that it is more likely people are irrational.  Okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, so your 1-4 in no way contradict my "dumb" explanation.  I provided a rational explanation and you think that it is more likely people are irrational.  Okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Cato's Letters</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7426</link>
		<dc:creator>Cato's Letters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tenure exists because profs know administration sucks and will screw them.  Grad students know profs suck and will screw them too.  The difference is grad students don&#039;t have an equivalent to tenure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tenure exists because profs know administration sucks and will screw them.  Grad students know profs suck and will screw them too.  The difference is grad students don't have an equivalent to tenure.</p>
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		<title>By: coiled coil</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7357</link>
		<dc:creator>coiled coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yee gads.

I&#039;ll be the first person to say &quot;hey wait, let&#039;s look at the background suicide rate before we start pointing fingers&quot;, but the fact that I could guess he was part of a synthesis group (Dale Boger) scares me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yee gads.</p>
<p>I'll be the first person to say "hey wait, let's look at the background suicide rate before we start pointing fingers", but the fact that I could guess he was part of a synthesis group (Dale Boger) scares me.</p>
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		<title>By: diordmehc</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7343</link>
		<dc:creator>diordmehc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW that&#039;s no mistake, I am on record making two extraordinary predictions in early 2008 - one that the S&amp;P 500 would go down to 800 and two that sarah palin would be the republican vice presidential pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW that's no mistake, I am on record making two extraordinary predictions in early 2008 - one that the S&amp;P 500 would go down to 800 and two that sarah palin would be the republican vice presidential pick.</p>
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		<title>By: diordmehc</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7342</link>
		<dc:creator>diordmehc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s the motivation to lie to prospectives at all, dude.

In winter 2008 I remember being at a recruitment event when I flat out told prospectives that it was a bad idea to go to grad school, but gave them the caveat that the economy was crashing and that it probably made no difference either way.

For the most part grad students gloss over the awfulness of grad school to prospectives for many, far more plausible reasons:

1) they&#039;re first or second year students so they haven&#039;t had the brunt of the crap hit them yet
2) they&#039;re socially awkward and so not doing what they&#039;re told and being a bold sumbitch isn&#039;t in their demeanor
3) they&#039;re part of the system and don&#039;t see the crap that is going on around them (seriously, participation in recruitment self-selects for people who are happy to propagandize the system)
4) they want the free food and are afraid that if they are rabble-rousers they will be disinvited (unlikely, but still more likely than your dumb explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, I don't think that's the motivation to lie to prospectives at all, dude.</p>
<p>In winter 2008 I remember being at a recruitment event when I flat out told prospectives that it was a bad idea to go to grad school, but gave them the caveat that the economy was crashing and that it probably made no difference either way.</p>
<p>For the most part grad students gloss over the awfulness of grad school to prospectives for many, far more plausible reasons:</p>
<p>1) they're first or second year students so they haven't had the brunt of the crap hit them yet<br />
2) they're socially awkward and so not doing what they're told and being a bold sumbitch isn't in their demeanor<br />
3) they're part of the system and don't see the crap that is going on around them (seriously, participation in recruitment self-selects for people who are happy to propagandize the system)<br />
4) they want the free food and are afraid that if they are rabble-rousers they will be disinvited (unlikely, but still more likely than your dumb explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: diordmehc</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7341</link>
		<dc:creator>diordmehc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.afsp.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewpage&amp;page_id=6A71D16C-915E-6926-704E5A9C15C3D6AF" rel="nofollow">http://www.afsp.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewpage&amp;page_id=6A71D16C-915E-6926-704E5A9C15C3D6AF</a></p>
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		<title>By: diordmehc</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7339</link>
		<dc:creator>diordmehc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, unless you&#039;re a synthetic organic chemist, how much of your 12-hour day is consumed actually doing work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, unless you're a synthetic organic chemist, how much of your 12-hour day is consumed actually doing work?</p>
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		<title>By: diordmehc</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7338</link>
		<dc:creator>diordmehc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a second.  I definitely think there is something wrong with the tenure system, but tenure is not TOTALLY rediculous.

Without tenure, for example, this experiment would never have happened:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a second.  I definitely think there is something wrong with the tenure system, but tenure is not TOTALLY rediculous.</p>
<p>Without tenure, for example, this experiment would never have happened:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cato's Letters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cato's Letters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the graduate students and postdocs are often complicit by not speaking up and telling potential grad students just how horrible things are &quot;

That&#039;s because it&#039;s a Macro problem rather than a Micro problem.  If I&#039;m already in the shit, then I want as good a bunker buddy to join me in the foxhole as I can get.  My incentive is not to discourage the guy, even if the rare person of exceptional ethics might defy the underlying incentives and blow the whistle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"the graduate students and postdocs are often complicit by not speaking up and telling potential grad students just how horrible things are "</p>
<p>That's because it's a Macro problem rather than a Micro problem.  If I'm already in the shit, then I want as good a bunker buddy to join me in the foxhole as I can get.  My incentive is not to discourage the guy, even if the rare person of exceptional ethics might defy the underlying incentives and blow the whistle.</p>
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		<title>By: RIP Jason Altom</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIP Jason Altom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was there any Scripps suicides?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was there any Scripps suicides?</p>
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		<title>By: RIP Jason Altom</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIP Jason Altom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP Jason Altom. Your legacy will never be forgotten!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIP Jason Altom. Your legacy will never be forgotten!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7033</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You heal me. God, you heal me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You heal me. God, you heal me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7032</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant. May I shake your hand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant. May I shake your hand?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/career-advice-for-young-scientists-and-engineers-part-i/#comment-7031</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 08:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must love those little buggers hanging around your lab, huh? So cute and cuddly, forfeiting all those life experiences for the sake of a study that will never get published - ahhh, such dolls...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must love those little buggers hanging around your lab, huh? So cute and cuddly, forfeiting all those life experiences for the sake of a study that will never get published - ahhh, such dolls...</p>
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