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		<title>By: Anonymous f541</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous f541</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam is an arrogant ***hole, not a nice guy.  Has absolutely no respect for other people&#039;s time, especially students.  He loves to take credit for things that he did not invent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam is an arrogant ***hole, not a nice guy.  Has absolutely no respect for other people's time, especially students.  He loves to take credit for things that he did not invent.</p>
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		<title>By: diordmehc</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-14424</link>
		<dc:creator>diordmehc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone can sue anyone, but in the united states (except for the 1st circuit which includes ME NH RI MA), truth is always a defense against libel.  If you are in CA, CA comes with very strong protections against SLAPP.  IANAL; YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can sue anyone, but in the united states (except for the 1st circuit which includes ME NH RI MA), truth is always a defense against libel.  If you are in CA, CA comes with very strong protections against SLAPP.  IANAL; YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous c94a</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-14183</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous c94a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to post something about my PI - but is it safe - as in can he sue me?</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous a3ee</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-14069</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous a3ee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam Danishefsky a nice guy? Not at all, He takes good care to appear in public as a nice guy but in one on one meetings he can be very mean and abusive to grad students and posdocs he does not like. In public he´s always praising people for their achievements but with his own group behind closed doors he had this comment for many people &quot;his research is just such a ####ing waste of time&quot; Is that a good moral lesson to his group? Sam will use all methods to get his research going, including blatant threats and personnal offense when things are not running well, again this will only be known for the poor soul that is called to his office. Many more examples of abusive behavior from this big name chemist. Ask the secretaries at Yale what kind of person he was as chairman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Danishefsky a nice guy? Not at all, He takes good care to appear in public as a nice guy but in one on one meetings he can be very mean and abusive to grad students and posdocs he does not like. In public he´s always praising people for their achievements but with his own group behind closed doors he had this comment for many people "his research is just such a ####ing waste of time" Is that a good moral lesson to his group? Sam will use all methods to get his research going, including blatant threats and personnal offense when things are not running well, again this will only be known for the poor soul that is called to his office. Many more examples of abusive behavior from this big name chemist. Ask the secretaries at Yale what kind of person he was as chairman.</p>
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		<title>By: geo-chick</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-8487</link>
		<dc:creator>geo-chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 07:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, the spying thing is so true... I&#039;m a postdoc in geochemistry and the construction of a new huge ultra-clean lab for my PI has just been completed.  Funny thing is, the lab rooms don&#039;t have actual walls, but rather floor-to-ceiling windows... Brilliant!  Anyone walking by the building can watch us like we&#039;re on display in the zoo.  This PI hasn&#039;t set foot in the lab for decades, so this will be an excellent new way to keep tabs on us and the hours we&#039;re putting in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, the spying thing is so true... I'm a postdoc in geochemistry and the construction of a new huge ultra-clean lab for my PI has just been completed.  Funny thing is, the lab rooms don't have actual walls, but rather floor-to-ceiling windows... Brilliant!  Anyone walking by the building can watch us like we're on display in the zoo.  This PI hasn't set foot in the lab for decades, so this will be an excellent new way to keep tabs on us and the hours we're putting in.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-8294</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honest to God, I hope you do it.</description>
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		<title>By: RJC</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-8282</link>
		<dc:creator>RJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Ph.D. adviser was a #2 (pun intended). He was nice to me until I thought for myself and then he actively tried to sabotage me and lashed out in unbelievably unkind ways. This comes with a story:

I was in the process of finishing up last year and got a post-doc with another researcher that my Ph.D. adviser considers a rival and hates. Actually hates. I was unaware of how much he hated my post-doc adviser until I accepted the position. I figured they just had scientific differences as people do. Anyway, the post-doc was at a good institution and the adviser is well-known in our field. So, I was really excited that I got the job. When I went into to his office to tell him that I  was accepting the position he lashed out and told me:
1. That the post-doc adviser was only using me to get to him.
2. That I was unqualified for the position.
3. That he couldn&#039;t work with me any more (I was in the process of finishing my diss.)
4. That the post-doc adviser was just trying to &quot;steal me away from&quot; him because he knew that I was &quot;his.&quot; 

Now, #4 and #2 don&#039;t really jive because I can&#039;t suck at my job and be valuable at the same time, but whatever. Anyway, I went to the head of my program and he managed to calm my adviser down enough so that I could finish etc. Since this time, the Ph.D. advisor has submitted a grant on my research topic that I wrote part of without my name, asked me to steal data from the lab of my post-doc adviser, and has accused me of stealing ideas from him. 

The really awful part is that I can&#039;t completely cut ties with him without losing a lot of my research plans. I&#039;m a field-based biologist so I can&#039;t leave my site easily, and because he is more senior he keeps trying and partially succeeding in taking over research that I started. 

There&#039;s pretty much nothing I can do without losing out. I&#039;m a long-term thinker though, and someday I&#039;ll write a book on adviser student relations and how to be a good adviser and he&#039;ll figure prominently in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Ph.D. adviser was a #2 (pun intended). He was nice to me until I thought for myself and then he actively tried to sabotage me and lashed out in unbelievably unkind ways. This comes with a story:</p>
<p>I was in the process of finishing up last year and got a post-doc with another researcher that my Ph.D. adviser considers a rival and hates. Actually hates. I was unaware of how much he hated my post-doc adviser until I accepted the position. I figured they just had scientific differences as people do. Anyway, the post-doc was at a good institution and the adviser is well-known in our field. So, I was really excited that I got the job. When I went into to his office to tell him that I  was accepting the position he lashed out and told me:<br />
1. That the post-doc adviser was only using me to get to him.<br />
2. That I was unqualified for the position.<br />
3. That he couldn't work with me any more (I was in the process of finishing my diss.)<br />
4. That the post-doc adviser was just trying to "steal me away from" him because he knew that I was "his." </p>
<p>Now, #4 and #2 don't really jive because I can't suck at my job and be valuable at the same time, but whatever. Anyway, I went to the head of my program and he managed to calm my adviser down enough so that I could finish etc. Since this time, the Ph.D. advisor has submitted a grant on my research topic that I wrote part of without my name, asked me to steal data from the lab of my post-doc adviser, and has accused me of stealing ideas from him. </p>
<p>The really awful part is that I can't completely cut ties with him without losing a lot of my research plans. I'm a field-based biologist so I can't leave my site easily, and because he is more senior he keeps trying and partially succeeding in taking over research that I started. </p>
<p>There's pretty much nothing I can do without losing out. I'm a long-term thinker though, and someday I'll write a book on adviser student relations and how to be a good adviser and he'll figure prominently in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-7045</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in AWE.</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-7023</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 07:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precious. Just precious.</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-7021</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 05:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are my personal hero. Been there, done that, got fed up with it, and now share it with everybody else? You&#039;ve got guts, and I thank you for it.

As a science graduate student, I&#039;ve spent a great deal of my own time trying to verbalize exactly what it is that I&#039;m experiencing. I&#039;ve gotten tired of the manipulation and mind tricks used by my advisers, and have become increasingly depressed with the realization that in the end, it won&#039;t matter - because we are overproducing PhDs to such a level, that I&#039;ll be traped in this tornado of PhD followed by Post-Doc number 1, followed by Post-Doc number 2, followed by depressingly small odds of getting a chance in academia - which would in essence monopolize my entire life, and make it impossible for me to remain healthy, balanced, and be happy.

I love science, but science didn&#039;t love me back.

It&#039;s not a pretty realization. Growing up, we were bombarded with images of space shuttles, stars, cells and bacteria, cool chemical compounds... only to find that the road to science takes you straight through its own personal sweatshop, run by someone very adept at manipulating you to get what he/she wants.... for damn near free.

I&#039;m disillusioned, and I know a heck of a lot of you are too. They wonder aloud &quot;Why aren&#039;t american kids pursuing science&quot;, and they figure we&#039;re not smart enough. But maybe if they tried to listen to what we have to say, they&#039;d realize the real problem is in these sweatshops that we call graduate school. Having tasted the bitterness of real science, I think the real question ought to be &quot;Why are so many american kids pursuing science?&quot; 

Thank you for this blog. It&#039;s genius, and you&#039;ve just made my day - nay, my year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are my personal hero. Been there, done that, got fed up with it, and now share it with everybody else? You've got guts, and I thank you for it.</p>
<p>As a science graduate student, I've spent a great deal of my own time trying to verbalize exactly what it is that I'm experiencing. I've gotten tired of the manipulation and mind tricks used by my advisers, and have become increasingly depressed with the realization that in the end, it won't matter - because we are overproducing PhDs to such a level, that I'll be traped in this tornado of PhD followed by Post-Doc number 1, followed by Post-Doc number 2, followed by depressingly small odds of getting a chance in academia - which would in essence monopolize my entire life, and make it impossible for me to remain healthy, balanced, and be happy.</p>
<p>I love science, but science didn't love me back.</p>
<p>It's not a pretty realization. Growing up, we were bombarded with images of space shuttles, stars, cells and bacteria, cool chemical compounds... only to find that the road to science takes you straight through its own personal sweatshop, run by someone very adept at manipulating you to get what he/she wants.... for damn near free.</p>
<p>I'm disillusioned, and I know a heck of a lot of you are too. They wonder aloud "Why aren't american kids pursuing science", and they figure we're not smart enough. But maybe if they tried to listen to what we have to say, they'd realize the real problem is in these sweatshops that we call graduate school. Having tasted the bitterness of real science, I think the real question ought to be "Why are so many american kids pursuing science?" </p>
<p>Thank you for this blog. It's genius, and you've just made my day - nay, my year.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-6976</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 02:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I agree, I&#039;m hardly a fan of all the crap, and it&#039;s a joke of a defense anyway. Academia is a funny little world, isn&#039;t it. There&#039;s a rat race, and everybody is overworking for peanuts, including the PIs (unless they do stuff on the side, but that&#039;s another story). They compensate with delusions of grandeur and free airfare when a conference trip doubles as a family vacation. Screw that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I agree, I'm hardly a fan of all the crap, and it's a joke of a defense anyway. Academia is a funny little world, isn't it. There's a rat race, and everybody is overworking for peanuts, including the PIs (unless they do stuff on the side, but that's another story). They compensate with delusions of grandeur and free airfare when a conference trip doubles as a family vacation. Screw that.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://rezaghadiri.net/is-your-pi-dick-or-loser/#comment-6963</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 17:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, but if those are the only ways to succeed as a PI, you can count me out.  I heard about grad students and postdocs committing suicide over stuff like this.  It&#039;s a seriously emotional game.  I wonder how those PIs can sleep at night knowing they are overworking people for peanuts.  You really have to convince yourself that you are doing the right thing for both you and the trainee.  Unfortunately,  those hard-headed PIs moved through the same system, so it&#039;s arrogance breeding arrogance.  PIs hate alternate careers because they are an escape from the system.  A PI can&#039;t screw your career if you no longer seek one in academia.  
You seem to defend the PIs at the end of the post, but with the titles you have given them, can you honestly agree with it?  Slave driving and manipulating were tools used by some pretty evil people in history......think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, but if those are the only ways to succeed as a PI, you can count me out.  I heard about grad students and postdocs committing suicide over stuff like this.  It's a seriously emotional game.  I wonder how those PIs can sleep at night knowing they are overworking people for peanuts.  You really have to convince yourself that you are doing the right thing for both you and the trainee.  Unfortunately,  those hard-headed PIs moved through the same system, so it's arrogance breeding arrogance.  PIs hate alternate careers because they are an escape from the system.  A PI can't screw your career if you no longer seek one in academia.<br />
You seem to defend the PIs at the end of the post, but with the titles you have given them, can you honestly agree with it?  Slave driving and manipulating were tools used by some pretty evil people in history......think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous 587c</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous 587c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 04:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t worked with Sam, but I know that he goes to significant lengths to aid students in his lab and from his department (at Columbia and Sloan Kettering). He certainly drives his students hard, as do most &quot;big name&quot; folks, but he cares about them as well. High expectations are part of the management style required for a successful lab, but these expectations need not correspond with inhumane treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven't worked with Sam, but I know that he goes to significant lengths to aid students in his lab and from his department (at Columbia and Sloan Kettering). He certainly drives his students hard, as do most "big name" folks, but he cares about them as well. High expectations are part of the management style required for a successful lab, but these expectations need not correspond with inhumane treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: diordmehc</title>
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		<dc:creator>diordmehc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam Danishefsky?  Wasn&#039;t the rumor that he had a place across the street so that he could just look out the window and know whether or not people were working while still being shomer shabbos?

In any case, even if he&#039;s a nice guy, is working with him worth all the adjectives and adverbs?  I kid, I kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Danishefsky?  Wasn't the rumor that he had a place across the street so that he could just look out the window and know whether or not people were working while still being shomer shabbos?</p>
<p>In any case, even if he's a nice guy, is working with him worth all the adjectives and adverbs?  I kid, I kid.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous 587c</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous 587c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a few nice &quot;big name&quot; folks in organic chemistry. Bill Roush, Larry Overman and Sam Danishefsky are all great guys. Each of them care quite a lot about both the success and personal well-being of their students. You are certainly correct that many of the prominent organic chemists are somewhat abusive but, thankfully, not all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few nice "big name" folks in organic chemistry. Bill Roush, Larry Overman and Sam Danishefsky are all great guys. Each of them care quite a lot about both the success and personal well-being of their students. You are certainly correct that many of the prominent organic chemists are somewhat abusive but, thankfully, not all.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonX</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnonX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harran gets too much blame for this incident. I know the guy. He barely started at UCLA and the accident was a cluster fuck for him. The lab was kind of messy because people had started working before everything was all orderly. The girl was obviously working with too much t-butyl lithium for a disposable syringe. The notebook pages are available online. The guy really does get too much blame, it&#039;s funny how much is thrown at him. Harran was hired as the Donald Cram Chair with tenure so getting rid of him would be very difficult.

However, rumor is that Alfred Bacher will not be renewed as a lecturer after the stabbing incident! No tenure and no union protection from what I gather. Good luck pushing that PhD in this economy. Would love to see how PhD adjunct holds up in this economy. Walmart greeter? I&#039;m waiting to see if anymore classes get enrolled under that instructor. Too bad, the guy was getting married.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harran gets too much blame for this incident. I know the guy. He barely started at UCLA and the accident was a cluster fuck for him. The lab was kind of messy because people had started working before everything was all orderly. The girl was obviously working with too much t-butyl lithium for a disposable syringe. The notebook pages are available online. The guy really does get too much blame, it's funny how much is thrown at him. Harran was hired as the Donald Cram Chair with tenure so getting rid of him would be very difficult.</p>
<p>However, rumor is that Alfred Bacher will not be renewed as a lecturer after the stabbing incident! No tenure and no union protection from what I gather. Good luck pushing that PhD in this economy. Would love to see how PhD adjunct holds up in this economy. Walmart greeter? I'm waiting to see if anymore classes get enrolled under that instructor. Too bad, the guy was getting married.</p>
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